In Trust podcast EP 14: Interview with Dr. Robert Zeitlin on Trusted Parenting During Pandemics

It’s tough being a parent in a pandemic, let alone three different ones. How do you manage your kids while you’re managing your job?  How do employees, regardless of parenting status, deal with outdated management philosophies?  

In this episode, hosts Lisa Lambert and Rick Kitagawa speak with positive psychologist Dr. Robert Zeitlin. For the last 20 years, he’s been helping parents raise kick-ass kids. In fact, he wrote the book on it – Laugh More, Yell Less: A Guide to Raising Kick-Ass Kids. He’s also the author of But I’m Not a Teacher: A Parent’s Guide to Learning Under Lockdown.

This episode has time travel, practical tips for managing the winter holidays in this time of triple pandemic, parsing intuition from the lizard brain, and a reimagination of what a school can be, so you won’t want to miss this one.


Overview of Episode 14: Trusted Parenting During Pandemics with Dr. Robert Zeitlin

Talking Points

  • Dr. Zeitlin’s path to helping young people and his work helping parents too
  • The difference between a positive person and a Positive Psychologist
  • The current problem we’re facing with online learning
  • How parents are being squeezed by remote work as well as remote learning for their children
  • Practical advice to parents who don’t know how to parent outside the command and control model of parenting
  • Practical advice to employees who are looking to figure out how to break out of common and control management structures
  • How to discern between your intuition and the self-protective voice that tells you to play small
  • The three pandemics we’re currently in and how to deal with them
  • Re-framing what goals we set for our children and the six learning superpowers
  • A re-imagining of the current educational system in Robert’s new project
  • We ask Robert to predict the future and he does a pretty good job of it 🙂
  • How to get through the winter holidays during a triple pandemic
  • Where to find Robert on the internet, and his ask for collaborators



“When it all grinds down, and sometimes when things break, what they find is that at the core is actually this relationship between trust and respect.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“We have schools pushing this compliance model down the throats of parents and asking them to be even more like prison guards and more like monitors and hall monitors and study hall monitors.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“This crucial relationship I talked about…parents and kids having a relationship based on trust – starts to get eroded or sacrificed in this model of parents becoming compliance officers for virtual school.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“What I’m seeing is enormous stress on parents who are starting to have to give up carefully curated lives of balancing participating in capitalism and self-care and supporting their family.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“Trusting in yourself feels like being able to discern between the internal voice that you know is your intuition and your gut and the internal voice that is the self-protective ‘just wait here help will come’ voice.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“It’s so easy to mistake technology as more efficient, but there’s a reason there’s a human element still in most of the things that we do.”  – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“It’s very hard to turn off the road when you’re speeding down a highway, but if you slow down you can make choices about ‘Am I going to stop here and enjoy the view? Am I going to turn here, am I going to turn back?” – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

“This is an opportunity for us to reimagine those traditions and what the core issues are, the core values are, that make you want to get together and pivot around that.” – Dr. Robert Zeitlin

Show Notes:

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